I have to disagree. I remember distinctly the WHOA!! WHAT THE HECK!? Where did that come from?......of the first night.
and the 'oh....oh my god...this is not what I thought it was' of the second night...
then going back and being FORCED to think...where did this come from? what did I miss?
those scenes are pivotal to understanding Ennis for sure. They are the only ones where we SEE Ennis opening up...we see that there is where he let himself breath...it sets off the entire rest of the movie where he tightens up more and more til the end when he collapses.
and as bad as it sounds, I think this slaughter job was planned. the mention of the GLAAD awards confirmed it for me. I may be one of the FEW that remember the vitriol poured on BBM by the 'gay community' in Hollywood. The nightly mocking and paradying from gay actors. I think it is an effort to discredit the movie.
my opinion.
Yes, yes and yes.
It seemed to me as a Brit. not used to such censorship, that it was quite deliberate and planned.It really did change the whole movie quite fundamentally.
We need to see the more "free" Ennis so we get caught up in the whole tragedy as he just gets more and more closed up.We need to believe that there was something that Jack saw that made him think for 20 years there was a chance they could make it work.If not, then the I wish I knew how to quit you scene makes no sense.
We need to see tender free Ennis, for the alley scene to make any sense.Looking at the Bravo version. and having lost most of the tender time in TS2 ,the alley scene could even be interpreted as Ennis being sickened by what had happened on BBM.We see no real love or affection on BBM, just the outside of the tent twice and the fight.So even that is insane.What then in Bravos version was so sacred to them about about BBM.
Why would Jack have kept the shirts at the end of summer if al they appeared to have was a couple of f--ks and a fight
? More insanity, he kept them because of love, and when Ennis finds them he knows finally of Jacks love for him, and also he finally accepts his love for Jack.Only it is too late.
But that doesn't matter a long as we see Jack getting clubbed to death.
No wonder teenagers are so violent.
Lets look at the message here, volence in extreme graphic detail does not need to be censored, so therefore by implication is condoned.Affection betwen 2 men very bad and so has to be censored.It is not just what was taken out by the censors, it is also about what was left in.
I can't write any more,It has just annoyed me all day.
I still believe what they did changed the whole tone of the movie.It must have done,or why am I so mad.If it had ben a fair and sensible censorship,I would not have posted, ranting about it.