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Offline dly64

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Re: Would Ennis Commit Suicide?
« Reply #70 on: August 09, 2006, 02:10:21 pm »
In short, my guess would be that Ennis might change a lot over the years, might even find someone else but given the human psyche's resistance to change, we couldn't expect to see him at the Gay Games or becoming any kind of social butterfly.   :)

That is an understatement!

I argue, however, that Ennis becomes more isolative and bitter after Jack dies. I donít see him making any significant changes. Ennis does recognize, however, how his own actions have caused hurt and disappointment towards the ones he has loved (when he agrees to go to Juniorís wedding).  But Ennis will always have guilt, anger and fear. He realizes, in a heartbreaking and final way, that he frittered away 20 years.
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Re: Would Ennis Commit Suicide?
« Reply #71 on: August 09, 2006, 06:27:28 pm »
Sorry, I can't recall it as it was in the early days.  It was quite detailed about the plans Ennis made going up to the mountain.  It wasn't Jeff's, although I do like his story  :)  Not sure if it was A Dying Wind as I can't find that one to compare.  I'll check around a bit more and post again if I find it.  Sorry to have piqued your curiosity and not following through.

Thanks, nic. Much obliged!  :)

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Re: Would Ennis Commit Suicide?
« Reply #72 on: August 11, 2006, 11:03:00 am »
I don't think Ennis woud have ever even thought of suicide. He had dealt with great loss early in his life and he was able to deal with it. He was able to count his blessings, had two daughters, and experenced the love of a lfetime. He knew how to 'stand it'.
Thank you Heath and Jake for showing us Ennis and Jack,  teaching us how much they loved one another.

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Re: Would Ennis Commit Suicide?
« Reply #73 on: August 28, 2006, 11:53:38 pm »
IMO, I don't think Ennis would commit suicide, but I don't think he'll live to be that old either.  He does have his daughters to look forward to and maybe see both their marriages.  Perhaps, even see his grandchildres growing up, but after that, he'll slowly waste away.  After all, his other half is gone and it's a matter of time before the living half will follow. 

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Re: Would Ennis Commit Suicide?
« Reply #74 on: August 29, 2006, 11:16:49 am »
After all, his other half is gone and it's a matter of time before the living half will follow. 

Interesting analogy. It makes me sad ... but I think there is truth there!
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Re: Would Ennis Commit Suicide?
« Reply #75 on: August 29, 2006, 11:36:13 am »
Experincing the love he had with Jack would sustain Ennis for the rest of his life.
Thank you Heath and Jake for showing us Ennis and Jack,  teaching us how much they loved one another.

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Re: Would Ennis Commit Suicide?
« Reply #76 on: August 29, 2006, 08:00:54 pm »
Interesting analogy. It makes me sad ... but I think there is truth there!

It's true, many folks do die of a broken heart.  :(

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Re: Would Ennis Commit Suicide?
« Reply #77 on: August 29, 2006, 10:48:08 pm »
It's true, many folks do die of a broken heart.  :(

Yes, that's true.  Especially if they really love each other, like our boys do.  Sorry to make you sad Diane.  It makes me sad also often to the point of tears to think that, but that's how I see Ennis.  He cried everytime he sees the shirts and when he dreamt of Jack, he felt pleasure as well as sadness.  To me, he is longing to be with Jack again but needs to live to see his daughters through.  I still don't think he'll commit suicide though.

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Re: Would Ennis Commit Suicide?
« Reply #78 on: August 30, 2006, 12:24:54 pm »
I have never thought he would commit suicide.  Ennis is a strong person and he would proably see commiting suicide as a weakness.  I also feel like he would want to live on and be strong for Jack even though he is gone.  Like a tribute to him.  Do something for him in death that he could never do in life.  Accept and be free.
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Re: Would Ennis Commit Suicide?
« Reply #79 on: August 30, 2006, 12:29:41 pm »
I have never thought he would commit suicide.  Ennis is a strong person and he would proably see commiting suicide as a weakness.  I also feel like he would want to live on and be strong for Jack even though he is gone.  Like a tribute to him.  Do something for him in death that he could never do in life.  Accept and be free.
Very well said.
Thank you Heath and Jake for showing us Ennis and Jack,  teaching us how much they loved one another.