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TJ:
The homophobic so-called "Christian" fundamentalist religious right believe that no "one is really gay/homosexual;" they believe that they are rebelling agains the way God created them to be naturally. Those ignorant people go so far to say that homosexuality does not occur in nature and only human beings have homosexual sex.
They also believe that there are only two genders, male and female, too, not only in the animal kingdom, in humans, too. Because they literally believe the part of the Bible where it says when God created man, he created them male and female.
Those people have never even lived on a farm. I have seen young bulls who more interested in each other sexually than a heifer who was ready to be bred when I was on the farm.
silkncense:
"It is my feeling that a story is not finished until it is read, and that the reader finishes it through his or her life experience, prejudices, world view and thoughts." -- Annie Proulx
By the way Annie Proulx writes it seems clear that she does not intend to make every point/action/intention or result specific.
That to me is the ultimate beauty and intelligence of her writing.
TJ:
"It is my feeling that a story is not finished until it is read, and that the reader finishes it through his or her life experience, prejudices, world view and thoughts." -- Annie Proulx
Annie Proulx wrote Brokeback Mountain as an outsider, a heterosexual woman, looking on. I actually like the way that she did that.
Annie Proulx has admitted that she did not have all the answers to questions that she had about her subjects of Ennis Del Mar and Jack Twist.
But, as a person who has had two courses related to literary criticism (one secular and one religious), one needs to try to understand the life experience, prejudices, the world view and the thoughts of the author of the original work first of all.
But, I have found on the internet in various forum boards (not so much in this one) and in Yahoo discussion groups related to BbM that some women who are admittedly exclusively heterosexual in their sexual orientation think they know everything that there is to know about men who are exclusively homosexual in their sexual orientation. They even think they know gays better than gays know themselves.
Meryl:
My beef is not with people who see the movie and come up with all these wacky theories. It's with people who make assumptions without seeing it at all.
How can you argue with someone who refuses to see it because it shows men in intimate situations and has the nerve to make them sympathetic? What's more, they look on you as some sort of wacko/perv for liking a movie with such a distasteful subject.
It's alright to laugh at homosexuals in our homophobic society, but treat them seriously, in a critically-acclaimed vehicle, and the walls go up pronto. People start saying that it's liberal propaganda, it has an "agenda," etc., etc. They act like it's an attack instead of a movie.
I don't go to horror movies because I find them distasteful, so I can't really condemn people for not wanting to see something they don't think they'll enjoy. But that doesn't stop me being angry at them and at our society for making this beautiful film out to be something nasty and corrupting. It's just so wrong!! >:(
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: meryl on May 08, 2006, 01:22:49 am ---How can you argue with someone who refuses to see it because it shows men in intimate situations and has the nerve to make them sympathetic? What's more, they look on you as some sort of wacko/perv for liking a movie with such a distasteful subject.
It's alright to laugh at homosexuals in our homophobic society, but treat them seriously, in a critically-acclaimed vehicle, and the walls go up pronto. People start saying that it's liberal propaganda, it has an "agenda," etc., etc. They act like it's an attack instead of a movie.
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I just don't have time for people like that. I am as contemptuous of them as I am for racists or any other bigots. I don't take them seriously, don't consider it worth my time to engage them in argument. I don't agree that this movie promotes any specific "agenda" -- but so what if it did? It would be a perfectly legitimate agenda to promote!!! I don't go to horror movies either, but I don't consider watching people chop each other up to be anywhere near in the same category as watching men in love. (I know you don't either, Meryl, but the point is, don't let yourself get sidetracked by that analogy -- it is ridiculous; this goes way beyond matters of cinematic taste.) To consider those people's point of view worth debating is giving it way too much credibility. They are idiots. Treat them with the contempt they deserve.
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