Corona - what does help you? Your fears, thoughts, everything

[serious crayons]

I really don't know what they think.  Because it's under emergency authorization, the vaccine can't be "mandatory".

I can understand that people are leery of being injected with something that hasn't gone through lengthy clinical trials, but the alternative seems far worse.

Unfun fact: It took me a few seconds to remember what clinical trials are called because I keep thinking criminal trials, what with the George Floyd verdict due at any time and potential resulting mayhem.

[Jeff Wrangler]

I can understand that people are leery of being injected with something that hasn't gone through lengthy clinical trials, but the alternative seems far worse.

I'll confess to lingering concerns about the efficacy because of how quickly the vaccines were produced, and also, now, because of the variant strains, but, obviously, my concerns have not kept me from getting vaccinated; I've had the first dose, after all. It's the responsible thing to do, even if it provides only limited and partial protection. And I'm not afraid of the vaccine.

Even with my concerns, I think it would be a good thing if the current vaccines can give "breathing room" to develop other/better vaccines, or maybe a combination covid-flu vaccine.

[CellarDweller]

and just as a reminder that Covid hasn't gone anywhere yet,  a friend of mine from Florida posted on his FB page that his wife has covid, and he had to rush her to the hospital.  They treated her and sent her home, because there was no room for her, the hospital is overcrowded with covid patients.

[serious crayons]

I'll confess to lingering concerns about the efficacy because of how quickly the vaccines were produced, and also, now, because of the variant strains, but, obviously, my concerns have not kept me from getting vaccinated; I've had the first dose, after all. It's the responsible thing to do, even if it provides only limited and partial protection.

and just as a reminder that Covid hasn't gone anywhere yet,  a friend of mine from Florida posted on his FB page that his wife has covid, and he had to rush her to the hospital.  They treated her and sent her home, because there was no room for her, the hospital is overcrowded with covid patients.

The way I look at it, if the vaccine has been out for a while and COVID cases are still high, the vaccine must be working. Because if vaccinated people were still getting COVID in large numbers we'd be hearing about it. I don't think it's hundert percent foolproof, but with the disease still swirling around the vaccinated people have plenty of opportunities to get COVID and if they haven't (very often, anyway), that's saying something.

If I were an anti-vaxxer, my biggest concern would not be the efficacy of the vaccine, but the fact that they're using it to plant tracking microchips to control humanity, courtesy of Bill Gates without lengthy clinical trials, leaving open the possibility that there might be some unwelcome longer-term side effects not yet discovered.

[Penthesilea]

What do people think? Will we have a fourth wave? Or will we escape it. I understand there's a wave going on in Europe. Is that true? How awful if it is!

Yes, we're in the middle of the third wave.

Re vaccines: in Germany the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine has been stopped for people under 60 years. There is a connection between AstraZeneca and cerebral venous thrombosis (? Not sure about the medical term) in people under 60. The risk to develop said thrombosis is low, lower than the risk of getting a bad case of Covid19, but it does exist.
Now everybody under 60 gets Biontech (Pfizer for you Americans) or Moderna.

I've had my first vax shot with AstraZeneca. Now there's he question of which vaccine to use for my second shot. I get offered Biontech, but could also take AstraZeneca again, on my own risk. I'm not sure what to do. My daughter (who has just ended her medical studies) isn't sure either, but says she would rather advise against AstraZeneca and take the Biontech one.
However, these two are different kinds of vaccines; one is a vector vaccine, the other one is a MRNA vaccine (again, not sure about the medical terms, I just translated them). Nobody knows about the effectiveness if you combine these two.


On a positive note, both of my girls are eligible to get vaccinated since they work resp. have internships in jobs that give you prioritization rights. They both get Biontech from the get-go (I got my first shot earlier, before they stopped AstraZeneca).

[Front-Ranger]

What a mess! Keep us apprised of what you decide to do.

[CellarDweller]

Yes, Chrissi, please keep us posted.

I get my second shot on Wednesday.

[Penthesilea]

Yes, Chrissi, please keep us posted.

I get my second shot on Wednesday.

Any reactions to the second shot?

[Front-Ranger]

I had the Phizer second shot and my only reaction was sleepiness/tiredness.

[Jeff Wrangler]

I had the Phizer second shot and my only reaction was sleepiness/tiredness.

A friend of mine had that reaction, too. I don't know what time of day he had his shot, but I woke him up when I phoned him about 8:00 that evening.