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Re: Tale of a 19th-century abortion provider
« Reply #120 on: June 08, 2009, 05:59:21 pm »
but I do think that couples need to be able discuss these issues when there are differences, and that somehow both the mother and the father can come out of it with something.
Of course, it would be very good if the couple could come to some kind of agreement. It would be good thing for them both.


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Re: Tale of a 19th-century abortion provider
« Reply #121 on: June 08, 2009, 06:00:39 pm »
ALL the risks? No. Men have considerable mental and emotional skin in the game, as well as financial investment (as we have been discussing).

I'm not trying to say that anyone should be able to force a woman into a situation, but I do think that couples need to be able discuss these issues when there are differences, and that somehow both the mother and the father can come out of it with something.

You can´t compare womans life  with mens emotional issues. Its two different things. And a life, is more important then money and feelings if I want this baby or not

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Re: Tale of a 19th-century abortion provider
« Reply #122 on: June 08, 2009, 06:01:01 pm »
I meant risks that is a direct result of being pregnant and giving birth, such as post birth depression etc.

Got it.
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Re: Tale of a 19th-century abortion provider
« Reply #123 on: June 08, 2009, 06:04:15 pm »
You can´t compare womans life  with mens emotional issues.

I wasn't.
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Re: Tale of a 19th-century abortion provider
« Reply #124 on: June 08, 2009, 06:04:33 pm »
Just wanted to say; thanks for a good debate everyone.


Abortion is always something that evokes a lot of emotion and is a topic that always makes for interesting posts.

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Re: Tale of a 19th-century abortion provider
« Reply #125 on: June 08, 2009, 06:06:06 pm »
I wasn't.

Please describe again what is that you want to say

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Re: Tale of a 19th-century abortion provider
« Reply #126 on: June 08, 2009, 06:10:33 pm »
Please describe again what is that you want to say

Buffy brought up the mental risks, which both share. And then there are financial risks, which both share. I didn't say anything about the physical risks because I think we all know that men don't carry babies.
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Re: Tale of a 19th-century abortion provider
« Reply #127 on: June 08, 2009, 06:17:08 pm »
We can never get around the fact that it is the woman who´s carrying the child It´s the woman´s body that gets reshaped.  It´s the woman who takes all the risks, both mental and physical.

This is why it is, and always should be the woman´s decision.

I think Buffy talks about both the mental and physical risks for a women. 

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Re: Tale of a 19th-century abortion provider
« Reply #128 on: June 08, 2009, 06:19:11 pm »
Buffy brought up the mental risks, which both share. And then there are financial risks, which both share. I didn't say anything about the physical risks because I think we all know that men don't carry babies.

still it can be a physical risk for men, not deadly but they can feel a lot of pressure

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Re: Tale of a 19th-century abortion provider
« Reply #129 on: June 08, 2009, 06:35:47 pm »

  This is a very interesting subject but I still wonder what do people think. Is abortion something only the pregnant woman should decide about?