Willie Nelson's Lost Highway

[bailey1205]

I bet if anyone heard Willie Nelson in NYC, it was at the Hill Country BBQ.

 

This whole topic has morphed into "what a man is" ..... again.

Why does every thread that a certain person comes on turn into this?
 

[serious crayons]

LMAO at the idea of people listening to Willie in NYC.

 

I bet if anyone heard Willie Nelson in NYC, it was at the Hill Country BBQ.

Living in Texas and thinking that people in NYC don't listen to Willie Nelson is almost like me thinking that people in NYC (or Texas) don't listen to Bob Dylan or Prince.

[Marge_Innavera]

As for this "it's all talk" bullshit, I would like to point out that obviously it is not always "all talk."  Gay men are threatened.  They are assaulted.  Some of them have even been killed.  

And it's not just "manly" fun and games either.  It's a form of social control.  

Arguably it's a form of terrorism. And as we all know, there's no shortage of rationalizations for that.

Terrorist and homophobes, of course, understand it from 'different angles.'  

Interesting, the assumption that a non-androphile gay man wouldn't have any insight about how men think.

[Marge_Innavera]

I bet if anyone heard Willie Nelson in NYC, it was at the Hill Country BBQ.

 

This whole topic has morphed into "what a man is" ..... again.

Why does every thread that a certain person comes on turn into this?

Look at the threads and you'll figure it out. 

[bailey1205]

Look at the threads and you'll figure it out. 

Well, isn't there already blog where those can discuss what a "man" is?

[bailey1205]

Living in Texas and thinking that people in NYC don't listen to Willie Nelson is almost like me thinking that people in NYC (or Texas) don't listen to Bob Dylan or Prince.

They don't !!!

 

[milomorris]

Interesting, the assumption that a non-androphile gay man wouldn't have any insight about how men think.

I didn't say that non-androphile gay men have NO insight. I didn't say that women have NO insight. I simply say that their perspectives are coming from a different angle.

[milomorris]

Which shared characteristics are most important in determining mutual understanding in any given situation varies, depending on the individuals and the circumstances.

I do understand the overlapping communities of interest. And you are correct, one's mutual understanding is dependent on the circumstances and how those communities overlap. I guess the question is: how does that apply to interpreting how men express emotions? Or in this case, how will Willie's song be interpreted by various kinds of men?

[milomorris]

Look at the threads and you'll figure it out.  

The reaction of "rednecks," "yahoos," and other likely gay-bashers to this song led to a discussion about how men in different parts of the country might interpret the lyrics. That in led to a turn in the direction of how straight men react to the advances of homosexual men. Which led to bravado and men "talking smak." Which led to Gary's assertion that homophobia "keeps straight men from being naturally affectionate and open with one another." Which led to my assertion that men are indeed affectionate and open with one another. Which led to Gary questioning my understanding of men. Which led to where we are now.

Did I skip a step?

[Marge_Innavera]

Did I skip a step?

Yep.