The shirts and the Dozy Embrace

[Ellemeno]

There has got to be a thread to put this in, and everyone else here probably thought of this two years ago, but it just came to me, I think for the first time, that the shirts hanging together are like an eternal Dozy Embrace.  It was my first big BBM realization in a long, long time.  Go ahead and tell me you realized it ages ago....




Also, go ahead and move this to an appropriate thread, but let me know where, by PM, iffen you could.

[BlissC]

Go ahead and tell me you realized it ages ago....

Well I realised it about 20 seconds ago when I read the title of your thread. 

Good observation - I think we'd all realised the significance of Ennis protecting Jack, the shirts being together and never parted, in the way that Jack and Ennis never could be, but I'd never thought about it in terms of the Dozy Embrace before.

[Artiste]

Merci elle !

Quite interesting is your thread !

Does it also note contrast ?

Au revoir,
hugs!

[Luvlylittlewing]

There has got to be a thread to put this in, and everyone else here probably thought of this two years ago, but it just came to me, I think for the first time, that the shirts hanging together are like an eternal Dozy Embrace.  It was my first big BBM realization in a long, long time.  Go ahead and tell me you realized it ages ago....




Also, go ahead and move this to an appropriate thread, but let me know where, by PM, iffen you could.

I didn't realize this until now!  Very interesting, Elle!

[Brown Eyes]

Heya Elle!

This is a great topic for a thread.   Even if there is an old thread somewhere about this... it's probably good to start fresh once in a while.  And, off the top of my head, I honestly can't think of an old thread that focuses on this question alone anyway.


Yes, it's interesting to imagine the ritual that Ennis went through in order to extract his own shirt out from within Jack's blue shirt and then to re-weave Jack's shirt within his own.  It probably would have been quite a task... and obviously very emotional.  It's also interesting to try to imagine at which point Ennis would have thought to do this.

I also find it interesting to think about which two shirts these are.  They seem to be the shirt that Jack wore in TS1 and the shirt Ennis wore in TS2.  Ennis wears the shirt with the larger brown plaid squares in TS1 (an that's also the shirt we see Alma dealing with on the laundry line in the strong wind later at their lonesome old ranch when the girls are really small).  Ennis's shirt in the final, eternal pairing is also the shirt that we see Jack washing in the stream.

[BlissC]

It's interesting to note from the BBM script that Ennis only takes two shirts with him up onto Brokeback - when he gets out of the truck at the start of the film, the script says "no suitcase, just a grocery sack stuffed with his only other shirt..."  As you say Amanda, if the shirt Alma's washing at the ranch when the girls are small is the shirt Ennis wore in TS1, the one in the "eternal Dozy Embrace" would have to be the one from TS2.

That's also interesting though in the choice of shirts (one from TS1 and the other from TS2) in the "eternal Dozy Embrace" because whenever you read anything about the making of BBM, everyone involved always says that Ang Lee had things set up in very precise ways for a reason, and there was a comment in the Pierre Tremblay interview about even the wardrobe being chosen very specifically. I wonder if that extends to those particular two shirts?

[brokeplex]

There has got to be a thread to put this in, and everyone else here probably thought of this two years ago, but it just came to me, I think for the first time, that the shirts hanging together are like an eternal Dozy Embrace.  It was my first big BBM realization in a long, long time.  Go ahead and tell me you realized it ages ago....




Also, go ahead and move this to an appropriate thread, but let me know where, by PM, iffen you could.

great topic and you are absolutely right. the twined shirts were Jack's way of trying to hold on in some substantial physical way to what he felt for Ennis. why did he leave then at OMT's house? what if Mama Twist went on a cleaning rampage and threw them out? 20 years hanging on a nail was a long, long time.

[Brown Eyes]

Yep, just for concrete reference... the shirt that Jack takes is definitely the shirt that Ennis wears during the dozy embrace.  You can tell here by the bit sticking out from under Ennis's jacket sleeve.

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[brokeplex]

Yep, just for concrete reference... the shirt that Jack takes is definitely the shirt that Ennis wears during the dozy embrace.  You can tell here by the bit sticking out from under Ennis's jacket sleeve.

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good point, I count only two shirts that Ennis had on the mountain. did anyone see that Jack had an extra shirt or pair of pants?

[Artiste]

Jack had a extra shirt or pair of pants ??  Were they yours you left behing brokeplex ??