Taking Chances, by E. L. Van Hine and L.H. Nicoll

[alexisg]

One thing I do wish to make clear:  one of my super-pet-peeves in fan fiction is "evil ugly Alma" and "evil ugly Lureen."  While Ennis certainly never had the same feelings of deep passion toward Alma as he did toward Jack (he had sex with Jack before he did with Alma, LOTS OF IT,) he did feel a great affection for her, enough for him to stay married to her despite the fact that he knew he wanted Jack in a completely different and much more powerful way.

One of my goals in my story is to illustrate what I thought was the original intent of Annie Proulx in portraying Alma AND Lureen as wives who were loved, as people, but not truly desired, because their husbands were already passionately in love with one another.

This is one of my pet peeves as well, Louise.  I believe that Ennis cared an awful lot about Alma, and was wracked with a lot of guilt for not being able to love her the way he should.   I don't buy into Alma going crazy on his ass (as is seen in a lot of fics) - any woman would be broken to discover her husband was not only gay, but that and maybe even more painful, that he is passionately in love with someone else.  I think that's what hurt Alma more, seeing Ennis display that passion that she never had with him.  It's part jealousy, part confusion and it just ends up in a whole lot of hurt.  Alma obviously wasn't an evil person - she was simply a woman who lost what she wanted most and perhaps realised she never really had it. 

[CarolK1943]

Update to "Shelter From the Storm"

http://louisev.livejournal.com/91763.html  "Chapter 63:  100%"


Warning:  Queer Sex

Well, DUH! After about a million chapters that should be clear by now.   

[notBastet]

None of this applies to Ellery, of course, whose own temperament and psychology makes it completely impossible for him to imagine even kissing a woman, and in fact pull the potentially dangerous stunt of stealing Lance Wayland's drawers from gym class in high school.  If that means he gets a different number in the Kinsey scale then so be it... but it could also be chalked up to temperament and the early recognition of his homosexuality, which from all accounts, does vary between individuals.

Ellery and Lance went to high school together?  Did I miss something?  Or is that upcoming info?

[notBastet]

Update to "Shelter From the Storm"

http://louisev.livejournal.com/91763.html  "Chapter 63:  100%"


Warning:  Queer Sex

Thanks for the warning Louise!!!
 

[louisev]

Ellery and Lance went to high school together?  Did I miss something?  Or is that upcoming info?

different Lance.  But as a result of his early lust for Lance Wayland Ellery is very partial to men named Lance.

[louisev]

*typity type type type*

I am here all by my lonesome in chat... Leslie is off to have a lobster meal with her neglected husband, Natali is cleaning up and doing errands, and here I am... chained to my keyboard, typing!

Anyone who wants to join me in chat, come on down!

[laurel]

One thing I do wish to make clear:  one of my super-pet-peeves in fan fiction is "evil ugly Alma" and "evil ugly Lureen." 

I totally agree with you and alexisg on this, Louise.  I see Alma and Laureen as victims of circumstance, and of the times in which they lived, just as much as Ennis and Jack were victims.  They both started out as idealistic young women in love, and slowly became bitter disillusioned middle-aged women.  They wasted some of the best years of their lives trying to gain the love of men who were incapable of loving them, at least in the way they wanted to be loved.

[laurel]

Great chapter, Louise!
Okay, okay, I take it all back, Ennis gets a six!

[louisev]

hahahahah!

I think it is possible that Ennis, by virtue of his own denial, may have functioned adequately in a heterosexual relationship... but I would take this to the bank, I don't think he ever had that kind of pleasure in sex with Alma.

[Lumière]

Greetings folks!!

Got a few chapters to go catch up on..

Update to "Shelter From the Storm"

http://louisev.livejournal.com/91763.html  "Chapter 63:  100%"

Warning:  Queer Sex

Errr...I dint think there would be another kind in any chapter Louise ..
Off to read ..